The power of silence in a noisy world – Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz | EP64 recap


Silence is Golden.

What’s the deepest silence you’ve ever known? Today, amidst the mass proliferation of mental stimulation, this may be a difficult question to answer. Yet it’s a question that could contain a key to solving some of the most serious personal and even global challenges that we face.

In their book GOLDEN: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise, Justin Zorn and Leigh Marz invite us to rethink our definition of silence—not just as the absence of noise, but as a presence that can bring us energy, clarity, and deeper connection. That’s what we are here today to speak to both about on the show.

The world is louder than ever. It’s not just the noise in our ears, but the noise on our screens and in our heads. With the average person sending/receiving 125 emails a day and with the WHO ranking noise pollution as second only to air pollution in its impact on human wellbeing, it’s clear that modern society has lost its connection to silence. While mindfulness can help us cope with the onslaught of noise, research shows that few people maintain a meditation practice over time. We need more accessible and enduring ways of finding clarity and renewal.

Zorn and Marz take us on an unlikely journey—from the West Wing of the White House to San Quentin’s death row; from Ivy League brain research laboratories to underground psychedelic circles; from the temperate rainforests of Olympic National Park to the main stage at a heavy metal festival—to explore the meaning and importance of silence and the art of finding it in any situation.

We dive into the following on the show.

  • The economics and psychology of why our world is so noisy
  • The science of why silence is essential for our bodies and minds
  • Why virtually all the world’s spiritual traditions honor silence as a path to truth
  • Practical approaches to finding “little moments” of silence as well as deeper immersion
  • How to find renewing silence in families, among friends, and in workplaces
  • Building a society that honors silence—including the values of rest and deep listening


What you’ll find in this episode:

(13:04) – how does society deal with the uptick in noise?
(22:25) – how silence can help executives flourish in their organisations
(27:51) – what to do when heightened stress kicks in and having to make difficult decisions

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